The president of the Portuguese Episcopal Conference (CEP) argues that politicians who invoke Christian values to promote hate speech and the exclusion of minorities should face a Nuremberg-style tribunal. In an interview, José Ornelas criticizes the use of religion to justify wars or discrimination, emphasizing that such actions are fundamentally un-Christian. He also discusses the need for the Church to address internal debates on issues like clerical celibacy and the role of women, while expressing hope for a papal visit to Fátima in 2027.