President Donald Trump said he had a lengthy phone conversation with Venezuela’s interim president Delcy Rodríguez, describing her as a “fantastic person” and saying they discussed oil, minerals, trade and national security. He emphasised the call was “long”, covered “many topics” and that things are “going very well with Venezuela”. The conversation, which took place a day before Maria Corina Machado’s White House visit, raises questions about the coherence of US policy towards Venezuela and whether the call signals a substantive shift or a diplomatic overture. The remarks could complicate relations with Venezuelan opposition figures and merit close scrutiny as developments unfold.