António Ferro was an essayist and novelist. As a journalist, he interviewed Hitler and Mussolini, and reported from Hollywood, proving his cinephile streak. In 1933, Salazar entrusted him with promoting the image of the State. Once a cursed figure, he is now the subject of master's and doctoral theses. The fourth of six episodes of the narrative podcast 'António Ferro: genius or propagandist?' is now available. It is dedicated to the relationship between the journalist and Salazar. The text and interviews are by Leonídio Paulo Ferreira, with narration and sound design by Nuno Braga.